Brad Hussey

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The Personalization System Behind High-Converting Ministry Websites and Newsletters

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Most organizations already have the data. They just don’t have a system that does anything with it.

In this video I walk through the exact process my agency, Giver, uses to build living, breathing personalization systems for Christian media ministries, nonprofits and entrepreneurs. The kind that know who your visitor is, what they need, and what to show them next. Without you doing anything manually.

This is the methodology behind the work at Giver. It works on HubSpot, ActiveCampaign, Kit, whatever ESP or CRM you’re already running.

Organizations spend anywhere from $25,000 to well over $100,000 hiring research firms to tell them who their audience is. They survey a sample of their customers and they get back a report with some personas and a segment breakdown. It goes into a PDF slide deck, and then it sits there, because that’s all it can do.

It’s a snapshot, a point in time. It doesn’t see what someone bought three months later. It doesn’t know that a visitor came back to the same page four times this week looking for answers. It doesn’t update when someone’s situation changes.

But what if that data didn’t have to be static? What if your website and your newsletter could do what Netflix does, what Amazon, Disney Plus and Walmart do? Give every single person in your audience a personalized experience based on who they actually are, their taste, and what they actually need. What would that do to your conversion rates, your open rates, your ad spend efficiency, your donor relationships, or your revenue?

That’s what this video is about. Let me show you how we build it.

It starts on paper

This is where we start: on paper, or a Google Doc, or Notion. Every client engagement at our agency begins here.

We worked with a large client recently with over 100,000 visitors a month, running on HubSpot. A significant audience, and a marketing experience that was treating all of that audience the same way. But when we looked at their audience, three very specific segments emerged. Each of those breaks down further into different personas. Each persona has its own pain points, its own goals, and its own set of resources that actually map to where they are.

Before a single survey was designed, before a workflow or automation was touched in HubSpot, before RightMessage was configured, the work was here in this doc. What are the segments? What conditions tell us someone belongs in one versus another? What resources map to each persona?

That decision matrix comes first. The technology simply implements it. It’s not the other way around.

Two ways to know who someone is

There are two ways to know who someone is, at least on your website and in your marketing.

The first is behavioural inference. It’s a pompous-sounding phrase, but bear with me. Think about any organization where someone might visit the same page multiple times in a short window: a pricing page, a specific service, a getting started guide. If someone comes back to that page three times in a week, you don’t need them to fill out a survey to know they’re seriously interested or seriously stuck. That signal already exists. RightMessage tracks it, and the system acts on it. A relevant next step gets surfaced on their next visit, or in their inbox in a newsletter. A personalized follow-up fires.

Let’s say a visitor keeps coming back to your pricing page but never converts to a free trial. A subscriber has opened every single email for six months and never clicked a single offer. A prospect downloaded three case studies in two days. Their behaviour tells you something. That’s inference. The system just needs to be listening.

The second way is the survey, conditionally designed based on what you already know about them: which page they’re on, which campaign brought them in, which lead magnet, which ad, which partner referred them, what they answered in the previous question.

That data gets stored in RightMessage, but it also flows to your email service provider: the pages viewed, resources downloaded, links clicked, ad source, referral source, survey answers.

Same page, same email, different experience

When the data lives in one place, the website and the newsletter stop being two separate things in completely different worlds.

Someone who told you they’re in proactive research mode gets a different experience than someone flagged as urgent. A subscriber who’s been on your list for two years and bought your entry-level product doesn’t need to see the pitch for that product again. They should see the next logical offer. A first-time visitor who came in through a paid ad sees something different than someone who found you through a referral partner or organic search. Same page, same email, different experience.

Your newsletter should work the same way. Same email, whether it’s automated or a broadcast sent once, but each reader sees the content, the call to action, and the recommendation that’s relevant to where they are right now. That’s not a one-size-fits-all broadcast strategy. That’s your own internal algorithm running on real behaviour, real data, and real offers for real people.

The data tells you what to create next

Here’s something I think most people miss. The data doesn’t just improve your website and your emails.

When you’re using RightMessage, it collects all of that, and it stores it in your audience insights. This is something we look at, and we inform our clients: here’s what you should do, here’s what you shouldn’t do, maybe consider creating this. We’ll even proactively improve resources for them based on it.

Because of the data RightMessage collects, it knows how long it took people to fill out certain surveys, and what they say versus what they do. It tells you what to create next. It provides suggestions for resources, lead magnets, content, posts, ads and survey improvements, because the data is living and breathing. It changes with the seasons.

You can see your segments in real time. You can see how they shift month to month. You can see seasonal patterns: who’s showing up in January versus August, what problems are spiking, and what answers people are choosing in your surveys.

And in those surveys, you can ask open-ended questions. This is gold. In the past, when you collected qualitative data, you’d have to really analyze it. If you had 500 or 1,000 of those answers, that data basically became unusable. How are you going to find patterns?

Now RightMessage uses AI to take those open-ended answers and gather the voice of the customer in their own words: what they’re struggling with, and the language they’re using to describe their problems, their needs and their goals. It finds those patterns and presents them to you. Then you can store that in your ESP and use it to personalize your website, your content and your offers, and improve your marketing.

You stop guessing what to create, and you just start building what you already know your audience is asking for.

Generic marketing is a respect problem

This is the part that gets me, though.

Let’s say you have a client visiting your site, and this client has spent $50,000, maybe even $100,000, with your company or your organization. They visit your website, and it pops up an opt-in box that says “Subscribe to our newsletter.” Are you kidding me? They’re already on your newsletter. They already trust you. They’ve already paid you a lot of money, and you’re treating them like a cold stranger who just wandered in off the street.

Or someone joined your list, read some of your content, and booked a consulting call with you. This is a real engagement, high value. And the next time they visit your services page, it says, “Book a call.” They already booked a call.

Would you do that in person? Would you sit down across from a client you know, who’s been working with you for two years and shelled out 50 grand, and then pitch them like you’ve never met? That’s just insulting.

But that’s exactly what generic, one-size-fits-all marketing does every single day to your best clients, to your most loyal subscribers, to the people who actually matter most to your business. A subscriber who bought your entry product shouldn’t see that product pitched again. They should see the next thing. A client mid-engagement shouldn’t see “Let’s get started.” They already started.

If you’ve got major clients or longtime donors on your list, people with real lifetime value, and you’re sending them the same message as everyone else, that’s not a marketing problem. That’s a respect problem.

This is what the system does. It knows. And because it knows, it shows the right thing to the right person at the right moment.

Personalized marketing converts 40 to 60% better. That holds up across any organization that’s actually implemented personalized marketing using RightMessage properly, because relevance wins every time. Not many organizations are doing this right now. The ones that are have a significant advantage over everyone else in their space. Hands down.

This is the strategy work we do at Giver before anything gets configured. Understanding the segments, mapping the personas, designing the conditions, building the matrix. Then implementing an incredibly intelligent survey in RightMessage and the personalized site layer, plus the connection with the CRM that’s in place: HubSpot, ActiveCampaign, Kit.

Your website, your marketing and your newsletters should be an extension of how well you actually know your audience and your customers. There’s no excuse for them not to be. The tools exist, the methodology exists, and the data is already out there.

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